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Title: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: Steak on April 03, 2012, 03:56:02 AM
I've been having a problem since last friday.

Suddenly, any attempt to stream flash video over an ipv6 stream (i.e. youtube, or IGN) fails - I either get no video at all, or sometimes 3 seconds and then no more.

if I turn off ipv6 on the client PC (disable it on the NIC) then everything works fine. Enable ipv6 again and no video.

Everything else works fine over ipv6 as far as I can tell - test.ipv6.com returns 10/10 and I can access web pages over ipv6, but flash video streams fail.

I'm trying to work out if the problem is on my end, or if it's related to my HE tunnel, hence the question - anyone else having any problems?

how to replicate: visit www.youtube.com - attempt to play any video.

Steven
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: cholzhauer on April 03, 2012, 05:37:13 AM
Nope, no problems for me
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: kriteknetworks on April 03, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
Nope, no probs here.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: broquea on April 03, 2012, 01:44:10 PM
YT works over my tunnel. Wasn't aware that IGN was available over IPv6, and I'm not seeing anything that shows it is. If you have streaming problems over both v4/v6, then it probably isn't tunnel related :)
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: OlivierW on April 03, 2012, 06:39:50 PM
Right now (3:36am in France) Youtube is working great, but during the day it's almost impossible to watch a video.
The problem appeared during last weekend.

I've just checked the videos which are working now on youtube are hosted on this IP address : [2a00:1450:4007:1::a].
I'll check tomorrow if it's the same IP address when Youtube doesn't work.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: trevorwarwick on April 04, 2012, 06:19:38 AM

I've also noticed problems in the last few days with Youtube streaming that disappear as soon as I disable IPv6 on my router's LAN interface & switch back to IPv4-only.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: kasperd on April 05, 2012, 05:53:31 AM
If you want any help with this, you'll need to mention where you get your IPv6 connectivity from. If you mention the IPv6 addresses of the client machine, DNS server, and host you are streaming from, then it is possible to look a bit more into where the problem may be.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: Steak on April 12, 2012, 09:13:29 AM
Whatever this problem was caused by, it resolved itself, the issue lasted from 30th March until 5th April and then suddenly, without my changing anything, everything went back to working properly.

Wierd.

Thanks to everyone who replied.

Steven
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: jsterck on June 11, 2012, 12:07:37 PM
Out of curiosity, what HE tunnel are you connecting to?  I have youtube problems on my network at home.  I connect to the Los Angeles, CA and notice somewhat poor performance.

Running some test now from ipv6-test.com/pingtest/ and Im seeing 2-3% packet loss on the V6 stack,  V4 looks great.  This may be part of my problem.  But good to know that folks are having V6 issues with Youtube recently.

Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: OlivierW on June 11, 2012, 06:48:09 PM
I also don't have anymore problem, it's working great at the moment.

jsterck, my endpoint is Paris, FR. I've just tried each test servers here : http://ipv6-test.com/pingtest/ and I don't have any packet loss.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: Gooberslot on June 21, 2012, 06:09:54 AM
I'm having trouble.  In fact, ever since IPv6 day streaming video has been almost impossible. I'm getting <1Mbit on average and sometimes much less. I just stopped a Youtube download because I was only getting around 20KB/s.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: jsterck on June 24, 2012, 08:19:01 PM
Same issue.  What is your tunnel server that you connect to?  Frustrating.  I recently took IPV6 off my standard DHCP data vlan because of user complaints.  I still have the server vlans enabled.  I guess this is part of the transition and hopefully either HE or Google will make things a bit more robust.  Id be interesting if it was a problem on my side.  Im using a Cisco 871 and do not see anything indicating any issues in the logging.

Jeff
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: Gooberslot on July 07, 2012, 07:08:16 PM
I'm using the Dallas server: 216.218.224.42
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: Gooberslot on July 12, 2012, 08:52:12 PM
I think my problem maybe XP. I noticed the other day I wasn't having problems under Linux and thought that maybe Linux was using IPv4 but nope, it wasn't and when I ran a speed test I got much faster results.  I also tried a Win7 VM under XP and also got much faster results.  So, I pulled out wireshark and the big difference I noticed between XP and the Win7 VM was the window size.  Under IPv4 with both OSs it was 64k but under IPv6 with XP it was around 16k and with Win7 it was a little over 64k. 
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: broquea on July 12, 2012, 08:55:34 PM
XP is a giant product EOL headache. April 14, 2009 was when mainstream support ended for it. 2014 is extended. People need to move on from it already. The IPv6 stack was tagged experimental for it, and barely any better by the time SP3 rolled out.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: kasperd on July 13, 2012, 02:03:54 AM
Quote from: Gooberslot on July 12, 2012, 08:52:12 PMSo, I pulled out wireshark and the big difference I noticed between XP and the Win7 VM was the window size.  Under IPv4 with both OSs it was 64k but under IPv6 with XP it was around 16k and with Win7 it was a little over 64k.
That's interesting. Certainly something to keep in mind when debugging the performance. I am curious what they were thinking when they decided to decrease the window size when going from IPv4 to IPv6.

TCP was designed with a maximum window size of 64KB. That turned out to not be enough. A window scaling option was introduced, which can be used to increase the maximum window size. Avoiding the option for compatibility reasons made sense at the time XP was released. So at the time a window size of 64KB did in fact make sense. But I don't see why you would want to go any lower than that. And why exactly go lower for IPv6? It is not like IPv6 uses faster light than IPv4 and thus can achieve same performance with a smaller window.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: ghira on July 13, 2012, 03:39:04 AM
youtube has been slow as to be unusable for me since the day before yesterday at least (possibly earlier
if I hadn't been using it).

wireshark revealed I was getting youtube via ipv6. disabling v6 on my lan has "solved" the problem
but clearly I am curious to know what this could be.

my ipv6 tunnel was via the paris server because London was full but I moved it to London yesterday
since there is now space there. no real improvement.
Title: Re: Anyone having trouble streamnig video?
Post by: ghira on July 13, 2012, 06:54:39 AM
Googling "youtube ipv6 slow cisco" suggests that at least in my case there could be cisco-related
issues here involving ip inspect (or zbfw if I switched to that) or ecn. I will re-enable ipv6
this weekend and see what I can find.