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Title: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on September 21, 2008, 09:57:22 AM
Does HE have a link to TorIX in the works or planned? Without a link to TorIX having a local tunnelbroker POP provides essentially no incentive for anyone to move existing tunnels or even create new tunnels on the new POP. It would also be very beneficial to anyone using HE for transit.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: testmonster on September 21, 2008, 10:08:45 AM

We are waiting on TORIX to provide a 10GE port.

Yes, anybody considering moving their tunnel to Toronto should wait until our TORIX port is live.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on October 01, 2008, 01:19:44 PM
We are waiting on TORIX to provide a 10GE port.

Able to get the port and link up yet?

Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: broquea on October 01, 2008, 06:18:16 PM
Poked them some more, and they promised more information for us by Weds. next week, about finalizing the exchange connection.  ;D
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on October 08, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
Poked them some more, and they promised more information for us by Weds. next week, about finalizing the exchange connection.  ;D

ping. :)
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: broquea on October 09, 2008, 04:15:10 PM
ping. :)

Emailed them today since Wednesday came and passed with no update from them.
When there is an update or any kind of information that needs sharing, I'll let you guys know.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: broquea on October 23, 2008, 02:55:31 PM
Port on the exchange has been allocated for us.
We're ordering the cross-connect right now, and will get peering sessions up ASAP.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: broquea on November 06, 2008, 11:36:18 AM
FYI: since getting the port live this week, we've been turning up a bunch of IPv4/IPv6 peering. We're far from done, but making progress on getting sessions up.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on November 06, 2008, 07:26:32 PM
Yes, I noticed that. My co-lo provider already has a v4 session up and at least one major DSL provider in the area that I'm aware of. At the moment I'm interested in seeing a session turned up with Primus Telecommunications -- AS 6407, currently they have a session with HE at NYIIX.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on November 15, 2008, 09:22:24 PM
FYI, I know it is only cosmetic but there are still some missing DNS records for some of the network infrastructure in Toronto...

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$ traceroute6 www.he.net
traceroute6 to he.net (2001:470:0:76::2) from 2001:470:b01e:3:216:41ff:fe17:6933, 64 hops max, 12 byte packets
 1  2001:470:b01e:3::2  0.376 ms  0.295 ms  0.324 ms
 2  2001:470:1c:8e::1  25.65 ms  25.501 ms  25.524 ms
 3  2001:470:0:c0::1  25.823 ms  25.521 ms  25.198 ms
 4  2001:470:0:ae::1  41.432 ms  42.202 ms  40.787 ms
 5  10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.nyc1.he.net  41.421 ms  41.911 ms  50.654 ms
 6  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net  41.917 ms  42.198 ms  41.257 ms
 7  10gigabitethernet3-1.core1.sjc2.he.net  121.159 ms  121.312 ms  121.013 ms
 8  gige-g1-1.core1.fmt1.he.net  121.632 ms  123.661 ms  123.501 ms
 9  he.net  121.173 ms  121.469 ms  121.175 ms

Otherwise looking good.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: spiffed on November 23, 2008, 10:55:06 PM
Tracing off the Rogers broadband network in Mississauga (neighboring Toronto), the Toronto POP is actually has the third worst RTT of any North American POP at 45.7ms and the most complicated route with 11 hops.

Looking at the traceroute it would appear to travel through NY before heading back into Toronto.
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Host                                                                         Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. ???
 2. vl-201.gw03.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com                               0.0%     6    8.3   8.8   7.7  11.9   1.6
 3. 64.71.241.89                                                               0.0%     6   12.0   8.9   7.8  12.0   1.7
 4. 64.71.241.85                                                               0.0%     6    8.0   8.7   7.6  10.6   1.3
 5. 66.185.83.62                                                               0.0%     6   24.2  22.1  21.4  24.2   1.1
 6. equinix-ash.he.net                                                         0.0%     6   22.9  22.8  22.2  23.5   0.4
 7. 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc4.he.net                                     0.0%     5   28.6  28.0  27.1  29.5   1.0
 8. 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc1.he.net                                     0.0%     5   38.6  31.8  27.2  38.6   5.5
 9. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.nyc5.he.net                                     0.0%     5   29.2  28.3  27.4  29.2   0.7
10. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.tor1.he.net                                     0.0%     5   48.3  45.1  43.4  48.3   2.1
11. tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net                                                   0.0%     5   43.7  44.0  42.8  45.5   1.0
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on November 24, 2008, 05:28:07 PM
Tracing off the Rogers broadband network in Mississauga (neighboring Toronto), the Toronto POP is actually has the third worst RTT of any North American POP at 45.7ms and the most complicated route with 11 hops.

Looking at the traceroute it would appear to travel through NY before heading back into Toronto.
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Host                                                                         Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. ???
 2. vl-201.gw03.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com                               0.0%     6    8.3   8.8   7.7  11.9   1.6
 3. 64.71.241.89                                                               0.0%     6   12.0   8.9   7.8  12.0   1.7
 4. 64.71.241.85                                                               0.0%     6    8.0   8.7   7.6  10.6   1.3
 5. 66.185.83.62                                                               0.0%     6   24.2  22.1  21.4  24.2   1.1
 6. equinix-ash.he.net                                                         0.0%     6   22.9  22.8  22.2  23.5   0.4
 7. 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc4.he.net                                     0.0%     5   28.6  28.0  27.1  29.5   1.0
 8. 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc1.he.net                                     0.0%     5   38.6  31.8  27.2  38.6   5.5
 9. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.nyc5.he.net                                     0.0%     5   29.2  28.3  27.4  29.2   0.7
10. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.tor1.he.net                                     0.0%     5   48.3  45.1  43.4  48.3   2.1
11. tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net                                                   0.0%     5   43.7  44.0  42.8  45.5   1.0

That is to be expected until HE and Rogers (or other local ISPs) turn up peering session(s) at TorIX.

Code: [Select]
$ traceroute tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net
traceroute to tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net (216.66.38.58), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  208.68.88.153 (208.68.88.153)  0.538 ms  0.396 ms  0.360 ms
 2  bb1.yyz01.spdnetwork.net (208.68.88.1)  0.592 ms  0.670 ms  0.514 ms
 3  gw-he.torontointernetxchange.net (198.32.245.112)  0.891 ms  0.513 ms  0.978 ms
 4  tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net (216.66.38.58)  1.653 ms  1.295 ms  1.293 ms
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on November 27, 2008, 08:27:46 PM
Yes, I noticed that. My co-lo provider already has a v4 session up and at least one major DSL provider in the area that I'm aware of. At the moment I'm interested in seeing a session turned up with Primus Telecommunications -- AS 6407, currently they have a session with HE at NYIIX.

broquea, able to comment on my request for HE to also turn up a session with Primus @ TorIX?
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: broquea on November 27, 2008, 09:16:35 PM
we sent out emails to all torix participants. we've gotten a lot of replies, but still have to wait on others. i believe this is one of the ones we are waiting on, even after our second mailing.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on January 08, 2009, 01:50:28 AM
Yes, I noticed that. My co-lo provider already has a v4 session up and at least one major DSL provider in the area that I'm aware of. At the moment I'm interested in seeing a session turned up with Primus Telecommunications -- AS 6407, currently they have a session with HE at NYIIX.

broquea, able to comment on my request for HE to also turn up a session with Primus @ TorIX?

Also  AS 812 - Rogers Communications?
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on September 10, 2009, 08:40:35 PM
Yes, I noticed that. My co-lo provider already has a v4 session up and at least one major DSL provider in the area that I'm aware of. At the moment I'm interested in seeing a session turned up with Primus Telecommunications -- AS 6407, currently they have a session with HE at NYIIX.

broquea, able to comment on my request for HE to also turn up a session with Primus @ TorIX?

HE now peers with Primus @ TorIX.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on September 12, 2009, 03:39:25 PM
Could HE please look into peering with Rogers (AS812) in Toronto? Currently HE is peering with Rogers in Ashburn, Chicago and New York.

Code: [Select]
Host                                                                         Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. ???
 2. vl-201.gw03.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com                               0.0%     6    8.3   8.8   7.7  11.9   1.6
 3. 64.71.241.89                                                               0.0%     6   12.0   8.9   7.8  12.0   1.7
 4. 64.71.241.85                                                               0.0%     6    8.0   8.7   7.6  10.6   1.3
 5. 66.185.83.62                                                               0.0%     6   24.2  22.1  21.4  24.2   1.1
 6. equinix-ash.he.net                                                         0.0%     6   22.9  22.8  22.2  23.5   0.4
 7. 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc4.he.net                                     0.0%     5   28.6  28.0  27.1  29.5   1.0
 8. 10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc1.he.net                                     0.0%     5   38.6  31.8  27.2  38.6   5.5
 9. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.nyc5.he.net                                     0.0%     5   29.2  28.3  27.4  29.2   0.7
10. 10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.tor1.he.net                                     0.0%     5   48.3  45.1  43.4  48.3   2.1
11. tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net                                                   0.0%     5   43.7  44.0  42.8  45.5   1.0
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: broquea on September 12, 2009, 04:39:35 PM
Could HE please look into peering with Rogers (AS812) in Toronto? Currently HE is peering with Rogers in Ashburn, Chicago and New York.

Just fired off an email to them.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on September 12, 2009, 08:26:10 PM
Just fired off an email to them.

Thank you. Could HE also please look into peering with Cogeco Cable (AS7992) at TorIX?

Code: [Select]
$ traceroute 216.66.38.58
traceroute to 216.66.38.58 (216.66.38.58), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  2.558 ms  1.657 ms  1.603 ms
 2  10.76.0.1 (10.76.0.1)  9.988 ms  9.156 ms  10.56 ms
 3  d226-9-73.home.cgocable.net (24.226.9.73)  10.871 ms  14.803 ms  11.913 ms
 4  113-0-226-24.cgocable.net (24.226.0.113)  14.728 ms  13.568 ms  12.825 ms
 5  qix-tor-gw.peer1.net (69.28.230.245)  14.156 ms  13.102 ms  12.718 ms
 6  10ge.xe-0-0-0.tor-1yg-cor-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.133)  15.295 ms  16.882 ms  12.363 ms
 7  oc48-po5-0.chi-eqx-dis-1.peer1.net (216.187.114.141)  24.823 ms  33.333 ms  24.31 ms
 8  10gigabitethernet4-1.core1.chi1.he.net (206.223.119.37)  23.208 ms  39.683 ms  26.866 ms
 9  10gigabitethernet2-4.core1.nyc4.he.net (72.52.92.101)  38.529 ms  37.400 ms  43.389 ms
10  10gigabitethernet1-2.core1.nyc1.he.net (72.52.92.46)  38.769 ms  38.12 ms  43.20 ms
11  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.nyc5.he.net (72.52.92.154)  37.840 ms  37.58 ms  37.855 ms
12  10gigabitethernet1-1.core1.tor1.he.net (72.52.92.166)  54.66 ms  52.145 ms  53.572 ms
13  tserv21.tor1.ipv6.he.net (216.66.38.58)  54.333 ms  53.13 ms  53.928 ms

I might also suggest looking into peering with Peer1 (AS13768) in Toronto although they don't connect to TorIX for some strange reason. They have their own PIX public exchanges in the Canadian cities with POPs that being Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver.
http://www.peer1.com/infrastructure/peering.php
http://www.peer1.com/infrastructure/pix.php
I see Peer1 is also at Switch and Data Toronto. Most likely they have PIX Toronto accessible from their Switch and Data infrastructure.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on September 12, 2009, 09:11:11 PM
Please also look into Shaw Communications @ TorIX (AS6327) whom you already peer with in at least Ashburn, Chicago and New York and Videotron Ltd (AS5769).

Rogers, Shaw, Cogeco, Videotron, as well as Mountain Cable and Eastlink (whom you already peer with at TorIX) are the major cable co's in Canada.

Looking at the current session list HE has good coverage for the majority of the rest of the carriers, hosting providers and independent ISPs in Canada via TorIX.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on October 30, 2009, 04:31:59 PM
Could HE please look into peering with Rogers (AS812) in Toronto? Currently HE is peering with Rogers in Ashburn, Chicago and New York.

Thanks. HE has turned up peering with Rogers in Toronto.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on October 30, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
Thank you. Could HE also please look into peering with Cogeco Cable (AS7992) at TorIX?

Thanks. HE has turned up peering with Cogeco in Toronto.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on October 30, 2009, 06:57:35 PM
Please also look into Shaw Communications @ TorIX (AS6327) whom you already peer with in at least Ashburn, Chicago and New York and Videotron Ltd (AS5769).

Able to get in contact with anyone at the above carriers?
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: mtindle on November 04, 2009, 12:40:36 PM
Please also look into Shaw Communications @ TorIX (AS6327) whom you already peer with in at least Ashburn, Chicago and New York and Videotron Ltd (AS5769).

Able to get in contact with anyone at the above carriers?

Both carriers were (are constantly) contacted about peering.  I just can't get into the details of the discussions. 

Keep in mind that we cannot give you any more information about peering other than what you can discern for yourself from our looking glass (it's up or not basically.)  But I do lurk here looking for routing / peering issues so please keep posting any potential network adjacency you would like to see.  There's a lot of discussion and work that goes on behind the scenes to get these setup (especially the larger the network) so please don't get discouraged by a lack of response from us on peering issues.
Title: Re: Toronto POP
Post by: brad on January 24, 2010, 06:35:27 PM
Please also attempt to establish peering with Bell Canada (AS 577) and Telus Communications (AS 852).